To start this article, we want to make it clear that we are addressing two different groups of people and will keep the responses to the two relatively separate within this post. The two groups of people are the so-called “Anti-Racists” as well as a group of people who are Pro-White but are radically different in their theology from us – Christian Identity adherents.
On the Christogenea forum at http://forum.christogenea.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8285&hilit=odinist, there was a straw man post bashing Odinists based off of an article written by a universalist Asatru adherent who made the claim that there are “no racists in Valhalla” and then proceeded to argue based off the post that “paganism offers no protection for the White race”and then claim that “Odinism embraces jewish values of multi-racialism, egalitarianism, and feminism” and “shares the same values of the cultural marxists who are hell-bent on destroying White Christian civilization“.
In regards to the claim of “White Christian civilization“, we will post several quotes by David Lane on the subject:
I have told the CRAP (Christian Rightwing American Patriots) for many years that in the wars, revolutions and assassinations that America has financed and participated in, from Dixie, to Cuba, to Mexico, to Panama, to Italy, to Germany twice, to Korea, to Vietnam, to Iraq, to Iran, to Libya, to Bosnia, to Serbia, to Waco, to Ruby Ridge, to Afghanistan and on and on, the dead and maimed victims number 200 million or more, half of them white, many of them women and children.
Determined to destroy the integrity of races, nations and cultures for the Zionist New World Order, The Red, White, and Blue traveling man’s murder machine has been an engine of holocaust, genocide, and death unmatched in human history.
But still the CRAP wraps logic five times around a crooked tree to proclaim themselves “American Patriots” who support “Our Boys” as they bomb helpless nations into the Stone Age and blow tens of thousands or millions of women and children into tiny fragments. Always looking for someone else to blame, the CRAP screams, it’s the Jews, it’s the Jews. Well I’d be the last to deny that the media is dominated by Jews who have an agenda of world domination and of extinction for White Aryans.
But it has been Christians who for centuries have been giving the White man’s food, medicine, wealth, technology, and education to the colored races. It is the CRAP who now surrenders the last of the White man’s women, power, and territory to the colored races.
White Christian Civilization is a catchy and idiotic phrase used by the CRAP. It was the Christians who destroyed our indigenous civilization and brought on the dark ages. It was the Christians who persecuted all men of science, philosophy, and reason for many centuries.
“Oh, that was those OTHER Christians,” the CRAP declares. It was the Christians who slaughtered each other in the Catholic versus Protestant wars, including the horrible Thirty-year war.
Christian Rightwing American Patriots (C.R.A.P.) http://www.DavidLane1488.com/crap.html
I tell you now , if they use terms like ” White Christian Civilization” or ” White American Patriot” , they are at best deluded, and possibly enemy agents. As best they continue to compromise with the institutions which are determined to exterminate our race.
An Open Letter to the Reality Deniers http://www.davidlane1488.com/deniers.html
In regards to Odinists being opposed to “hate”, we must refer one to the 88 Precepts, number 27 to be exact: It is not constructive to hate those of other races, or even those of mixed races. But a separation must be maintained for the survival of one’s own race. One must, however, hate with a pure and perfect hatred those of one’s own race who commit treason against one’s own kind and against the nations of one’s own kind. One must hate with perfect hatred all those People or practices which destroy one’s People, one’s culture, or the racial exclusiveness of one’s territorial imperative.
In fact, we are Wotansvolk and not specifically Odinist, in a similar way that Christian Identity are Identity and not Kinist or Judeo-Christian. Our religion is called Wotanism for one, because a “split had to be made with the game players, deceivers and universalists who had usurped the name Odin.” We are not Fokish Asatru, though there are parts that may or may not overlap with Wotanism in the same way the Christian doctrine of Baptism may or may not overlap with adherents of Christian Identity. (With variations in thought, with Clifton Emahiser arguing for “Spirit Baptism” and others arguing for a literal “Water Baptism“.) In fact, the daughter of Thomas Robb declared that there are “Identity Christians” within all denominations of Christianity. Of course Christogenea will argue contrary to that claim and call those who vary in thought “Rabbis” and the followers of rival sects as Jews..
Back at the Christogenea forum they kept up the straw man arguments by declaring “if you still believe in thunder gods and giant sea serpents, then you are an idiot. There’s no getting around it”, which is kind of ironic seeing we don’t believe that there is even a so-called Heaven. The European Religion has been interpreted through the eyes of a Christian mindset. One example between European Religion and Christianity is Circular Time vs. Linear Time. Christians believe in a “Beginning” and an “End”, whereas the European Religion never taught that. We don’t teach that Midgard is a Norse Earth and Asgard is a Norse Heaven with Ask and Embla being a Norse Adam and Eve. That is not what we believe and teach. Furthermore, we uphold Varg Vikernes as the best teacher in regards to the European Religion. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkxqQ7YnQl4
As to the Gods and what they symbolize/represent, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAetDRkTcxo
Nor do we believe in a “creation myth“, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY3MahCo70Q
Nor are the Aesir and Vanir different races of Gods, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p4HPS5I50c
Back on the Christogenea forum, Bill Finck then goes to say “pagans are deceiving themselves when they pick on Christians for the nigger-loving going on in the Judeo churches, as if nigger-loving is a disease which only affects Christians” which of course is true. There is an ancient war between UNIVERSALISM on one hand and SEPARATISM on the other hand. We believe that David Eden Lane is the appointed David of prophecy who would become known throughout the world for 14 words and 88 precepts. We believe in the Pyramid Prophecy and we believe that Wotanism is divinely instituted. We refer interested readers to read Deceived, Damned and Defiant. Within the Pyamid Prophecy you will learn more about a very real coding within the KJV, you will learn the true significance of 666, you will learn about the Seven Seals. You will learn why you shouldn’t identify with the Beast called “America“. You will learn the meaning of the Great (sic) Seal and the Pyramid on the back of a “U.S.” Dollar bill. You will learn about the numerical formula both sets of 14 Words were based on. Read more about some of this at http://www.DavidLane1488.com
Of course at Christogenea they then proceed to label Odinists a faggots, with Bill Finck asking a rhetorical question of “What better religion for White male fags than Odinism?”
As to the claim of “non-fixed” morals, see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RPwsRAKW4k Christians always try to claim a false moral authority when none exists. Not to mention the best things in Christianity are from the European religion.
We would refer some to scan through and read a few of the compiled articles on this section of this website: https://14wpr.wordpress.com/our-ancient-native-faith/
They then go on to claim that Wotanism is “a complete modern fabrication.” Claiming that “David Lane, the former KKK member” felt that Odinism “as it was generally practiced was insufficiently racial, so he created his own racially-charged version in America as an answer to the namby-pamby universalist Odenism practiced in Europe” and also declare that “its radical racialism is not based on any particular primary pagan myths or texts; he just made it up out of thin air, the way some jig made up Kwanzaa to fulfill a political agenda.”
In response to that, we will have to refer readers to: http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/paganism01.shtml
What should be of interest to Christian Identity is that Wotanism teaches that there is a MATH CODE is in the KJV, designed to expose the Synagogue of Satan, return us to a Nature-based religion, and to save the White Aryan race. Not only that, but Wotanism also teaches that the mythology of Israel and the 12 Tribes was created by Aryan adepts in the Mysteries. A relevant link is: https://web.archive.org/web/20081231125111/http://allfatherwotan.org/identity.html
Of course for the Christian Identity who label everybody a Jew or some form of “mamzer” for rejecting Christian Identity, not to mention faggots for rejecting their view, this article is for them: https://web.archive.org/web/20090528120455/http://allfatherwotan.org/identitysatan.html ))
Wotanism teaches: We do not excommunicate kinfolk of other beliefs from our company, as long as they share our goal of racial preservation. We should not “slay all those who would not have our God rule over them” as followers of an alien religion have done to us and our kinfolk by the millions. Robert J. Matthews was a Wotanist and the finest man I have known. In Valhalla he waits for those of us who fight for the life of the Folk. I do not think he cares if you are an Atheist, a Christian or a Wotanist, but only that you are White and Proud. But, for my part, his Gods are the Folk’s Gods and they are my Gods.
But Christogenea doesn’t follow that and declares David Lane to be a “mongrelizer at war with the kingdom of God”. Which of course is ironic as the Germanic word *Gudan, from which English “God” derives, is a variant of *Wodanaz (Odin). The yet reject a true Prophet of God. http://www.davidlane1488.com/pryamid3.html It must also be pointed out that Teutonic on the Christogenea forum is of course named after Tiw who is also called Dievas, Dyeus, Zeus, Theos, Deos, Div, Iuppiter etc. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyeus We of course Hail Tiw. We hail the Teutonic race of Tiw. We hail Tuisto our forebear. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QQaHza_UHs
Learn a little more about our ethnic European Gods here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FYCjO_1nLHQ
We must refer readers to MYSTERY RELIGIONS AND THE SEVEN SEALS at http://www.davidlane1488.com/sevenseals.html as well as the PYRAMID PROPHECY beginning at http://www.davidlane1488.com/ppintro.html
More could be written but at least there was starting to be a small level of Pro-White unity at the end of the forum in reply to another article by Bull Hansen in regards to a second article he wrote re-affirming the “no racists in Valhalla” concept.
Starting off, we adhere to: You cannot be Pagan and anti-racist. You cannot be Pagan and homosexual or even tolerate homosexuality.
Not only are there no “Anti-Racists” in Valhalla, but one can’t even be one of us and be a so-called “Anti-Racist”.
Seeing that the author is from Norway, we thought we too would use an author from Norway to counter Bull Hansen. Bull Hansen declares that “race isn’t a factor” in regards to Valhalla. That is not what we believe. Read: http://www.burzum.org/eng/library/paganism01.shtml Not only is race a factor but so is eye color in regards to Valhalla.
Of course, Valhalla is not a Norse Heaven. There is no “Heaven”.
And of course race is important, we believe:
On the European worldview: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XrZh6J1iF6k
There is no “divine race-mixing”: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8p4HPS5I50c
Nor is there a Norse Adam and Eve: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QY3MahCo70Q
On time: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2CWKK3liBYw